ION:Interchange founders Dan Held and Clark Moody on Kraken Acquisition_DeFi Land

Earliertoday,KrakenannouncedthatwehaveacquiredInterchange–aleadingportfolioreconciliationtoolforinstitutionaltraders.Aspartoftheacquisition,we’reexcitedtobringovertheInterchangeteam,includingco-foundersandcryptoveteransDanHeldandClarkMoody.BelowDanandClarkgetintowhythisacquisitionmadesomuchsensetothem,whatthefuturemightlooklikeforcryptohedgefundsandtheplanahead…

WhatexcitesyouaboutcomingovertoKrakenaspartofthecompany’sacquisitionofInterchange?Dan:Beingatasmallstartupyouareveryresourceconstrained–eachdayyou’reputtingoutamissioncriticalfirethatcoulddestroythecompanyinitsfragileinfancy.WithKraken’sfocusoninvestingforlong-termgrowth,wewillbeabletoleveragetheresources,customersandteamtobuildwhatwecouldonlydreamofbuildingbefore.MyrolespecificallywillbeonBusinessDevelopmentacrossallproducts,soI’mpersonallyexcitedtodigintoeverythingKrakenhastooffer.

Clark:ThecultureatKrakenismostexcitingtome.Toppriorityisplacedonsecurity,bothdigitalandphysical,forallemployees.Thisemphasisonsecuritymeansthateveryonepaysattentiontothedetails,andtheengineeringeffortishigherqualitybecauseofit.

ClarkMoody(left)andDanHeld(right)Whathastheevolutionofthecryptohedgefundspacelookedlikeoverthelast2yearssinceyoustarted?Dan:I’vebeeninthecryptospaceforoversevenyearsnowandit’sbeenawildjourneytowatchdifferentideascomeandgo–fromthefirstalternativecryptocurrencybubblein2014,tothemostrecentonein2017.Attheendof2017tokens/SAFTs/ICOswerethedominantnarrative.Nowit’salmostnonexistent.CryptohedgefundshavehadtodeepentheirunderstandingofBitcoinandblockchainfundamentals.Additionally,manylearnedahardlessonregardingdiversificationinanassetclassthatishighlycorrelated.Thehedgefundsthathavesurvivedthecryptowinterarenowmoremature,sophisticatedandprocessheavy.

Clark:What’smostimpressiveabouttheinstitutionalspaceistheincreasingsophisticationofstrategiesandallocationapproaches.Fundsareexploringeverypossibleinstrumentandtechniquetofindanedgeinthis24/7globalmarket.Iexpectthistrendwillcontinueaslargerplayersbringmorecapitaltothemarketandasexchangesintroducemoreproducts,includingadvancedderivatives.

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Whenandhowdidyoustartinthecryptocurrencyindustry?Dan:IgotmyfirstBitcoinin2012whenmyfriendpaidmebackforabeerwithaCasasciuscoin.Atthattimeitwasagoodwaytobridgetheanalogytodigital,asdigitalmoneywasstillaverynewidea.Afterlearningmoreabouthowitenabledhumanstostorevalueandinteractwithcompletefreedom,Iwashooked!IwasabigLibertarianandAustrianschoolofeconomicsguysoBitcoinwasaperfectfitformyideology.

Clark:AfterhearingaboutBitcoinwhenitreacheddollarparityin2011,Ireadthewhitepaperandimmediatelyfelldowntherabbithole.TwodriversledtothecreationofmyfirstBitcoin-relatedproduct:freestreamingmarketdatafromMt.Goxcombinedwiththeterribleuserexperienceonexchangewebsitesbackthen.Afewweekslater,Ilaunchedareal-timemarketdatawebsiteforMt.Goxwiththegroundworklaidtobuildacross-exchangetradingplatform.I’vebeenbuildingproductsonthemarketssideoftheindustryeversince.

What’sthemostcypherpunkorcryptothingyou’vedone?(ex:settingupyourownnode)Dan:Thisisatoughone!I’vebeenafanofTor,VPNs,torrentingandothermore“edgy”privacyenablingservicesforquitesometime.SettingupmyCasanodewasprobablymymost“Bitcoin”thingI’vedone.FeelsreallycooltobeabletoconnectdirectlytotheBitcoinnetworkwithouttrustinganythirdparty.Don’ttrust,verify!

Clark:Forawhile,IranJoinMarketasaliquiditymakerwiththesystemhookeduptomyfullnode.DuringmyaltcoinphaseIminedafewblocksofPrimeCoinonmyCPU.CheckingOpenDimebalancesviaSamouraiWalletisalsoprettysweet.You’llneverhearaboutthereallycypherpunkstuff?

What’sonepieceofadviceyou’dgivetonewcryptohedgefundfounders?Dan:Bedatadriven.Developarigorousoperationalprocess.Questionyourassumptions.

Clark:Buybitcoin.

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